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<div id="primary" class="boxed-layout-header page-header header-small" data-parallax="active" ><div class="container"><div class="row"><div class="col-md-10 col-md-offset-1 text-center"><h1 class="hestia-title entry-title">Anonymat I2P, TOR et les VPN</h1><h4 class="author">Publié par <a href="/author/hugopoi/" class="vcard author"><strong class="fn">HugoPoi</strong></a> le <time class="entry-date published" datetime="2010-10-21T19:57:20+02:00" content="2010-10-21">21 octobre 2010</time><time class="updated hestia-hidden" datetime="2017-04-02T15:06:08+02:00">21 octobre 2010</time></h4></div></div></div><div class="header-filter" style="background-image: url(/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/IMG_20170528_085824.jpg);"></div></div>
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<div class="single-post-wrap entry-content"><p><strong>Intro</strong></p>
<div id="attachment_98" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/minitel.jpg"><img aria-describedby="caption-attachment-98" loading="lazy" class="size-medium wp-image-98" title="minitel" src="/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/minitel-300x197.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="197" srcset="/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/minitel-300x197.jpg 300w, /wp-content/uploads/2010/10/minitel-1024x675.jpg 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a><p id="caption-attachment-98" class="wp-caption-text">Mon Minitel à coté de (soon) mon Minitel 2.0</p></div>
<p>Suite <a href="http://bluetouff.com/?s=Anonymat" target="_blank">aux articles</a> de Bluetouff, je voudrais apporter ma pierre à l&rsquo;édifice anonymat sur internet. Cet article va donc parler de 2 concepts logiciels réseaux qui permettent de surfer de façon blindée sur Internet. Enfin pas tant que ça &#8230;<span id="more-71"></span></p>
<p>En premier lieu, je devais écrire cet article dans le but de vous donnez des conseils pour utiliser les réseaux anonymes, mais je suis rendu compte qu&rsquo;il était urgent d&rsquo;informer les gens sur les dangers que sont les VPN.</p>
<p>Suite à une conversation avec un ami (et même plusieurs), je leur disais que je téléchargeais sur le réseau Bitorrent. La grande question était : est-ce que tu utilises un VPN ? Je leur ai répondu que non. La première des raisons pour laquelle je n&rsquo;utilise pas de VPN c&rsquo;est que je n&rsquo;ai pas d&rsquo;argent. Aussi le fait que pour utiliser un VPN, il faut rediriger ses paquets ip, ils transitent donc par un tiers qui peut comme il le veut logger toutes vos connexions et trafics. Enfin si je suis une autorité qui veux écouter le trafic des gens (genre hadopi), bah j&rsquo;ouvre un VPN « <a href="http://bluetouff.com/2010/10/19/hadopi-et-les-marchands-de-vpn/">pas-hadopi.fr</a>« , venez tous ici pour contourner hadopi, tout le monde il est beau, tout le monde il est gentil, voilà tous les pigeons dans mon filet. Pour dire aussi que <a href="http://http://bluetouff.com/2010/10/19/notre-internet-est-malade-ne-lachevez-pas/" target="_blank">le VPN c&rsquo;est de l&rsquo;anti-internet</a>, cela revient à supprimer le plus grand intérêt d&rsquo;internet, à savoir l&rsquo;échange direct possible entre tous et publier, discuter de façon décentralisée. Ce qui m’inquiète le plus en ce moment, c&rsquo;est cette nouvelle vague « cloud computing  » « web 3.0  » qui vient avec des périphériques qui ne servent à rien sans internet et des services hyper centralisés tel Facebook ou Youtube et Google. Je ne sais pas si les gens se rendent compte qu&rsquo;ils mettent leurs vies entre les mains de sociétés privées dont ils n&rsquo;ont que peu de contrôle.</p>
<p><strong>Tor</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://www.torproject.org" target="_blank">The Onion Router</a>, je vais pas écrire un roman sur <a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(r%C3%A9seau)" target="_blank">le fonctionnement</a> de ce système de routage anonymisant mais le principe est pas super compliqué. Au lieu de choisir d&rsquo;acheminer votre trafic de façon la plus rapide et/ou la moins cher, ce réseau va acheminer votre trafic de façon aléatoire et chiffré. Attention le chiffrement est présent qu&rsquo;entre votre ordinateur et le dernier nœud, qui lui se connecte en clair sur le serveur que vous voulez atteindre. Donc il serait facile, comme tout le monde peut devenir nœud sur Tor, d&rsquo;intercepter le trafic qui passe en clair quand on est le dernier maillon de la chaîne. Quand vous utilisez ce genre de service (TOR,I2P,VPN,Proxy,&#8230;) évitez d&rsquo;aller vous connecter sur le site de votre banque. Et puis quel serait l&rsquo;intérêt d&rsquo;être anonyme si c&rsquo;est pour vous identifier sur facebook, on marche sur la tête là non ?!</p>
<p>En surfant sur les pages du projet Tor, je suis tombé <a href="https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TheOnionRouter/GoodBadISPs" target="_blank">sur ça</a>. Une page qui donne des retours d&rsquo;expériences sur l’hébergement de nœuds relais pour Tor. Il est marrant de constater que les hébergeurs ne sont pas du tout fan de ce genre d&rsquo;installation sur leur réseau. Cela montre que ce genre de système est suffisamment puissant pour faire peur, et permet d&rsquo;effectuer sûrement des attaques ciblées de façon totalement anonyme.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.i2p2.de/" target="_blank">I2P</a></strong></p>
<p>Alors je vais être moins long sur l&rsquo;explication du fonctionnement de I2P, ça rassemble beaucoup à Tor sauf que c&rsquo;est plus orienté service et échange peer to peer. Vous pouvez lire <a title="(in english)" href="http://www.i2p2.de/how_networkcomparisons.html" target="_blank">cette page</a> qui explique les différences entre les réseaux Tor et I2P.</p>
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<p>Yop Hugo, il est cool ton blog mais pour être tranquille avec HADOPI faut faire du wawa :)<br />
Ca peut être une idée d&rsquo;article :p</p>
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<p>quote : « le VPN c’est de l’anti-internet, cela revient à supprimer le plus grand intérêt d’internet, à savoir l’échange direct possible entre tous »&#8230;<br />
Un FTP sous SSL chez moi via mon VPN nordique va bien pour mes amis&#8230; Je ne comprends pas votre argument&#8230;<br />
Une plus fine explication?<br />
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<p>Se cacher derrière une connexion chiffré qui utilise des systèmes centralisés de type marchand de VPN à 10€/mois pour faire du p2p derrière ça mène à ça : <a href="http://www.numerama.com/magazine/17851-la-neutralite-du-net-est-dependante-de-la-sante-du-p2p.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.numerama.com/magazine/17851-la-neutralite-du-net-est-dependante-de-la-sante-du-p2p.html</a></p>
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<p>pour 4.90 euros par mois j utilise ********** qui me procure une grande satisfaction au niveau fiabilite,securite,rapidite et surete&#8230;.un super vpn</p>
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<p>tu ne peux pas vérifier si il log tes connexions &#8230; Mais bon si il est à l’étranger ça limite le traçage :)</p>
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