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<p>En ce jour, je passe mon coup de gueule à tous les opérateurs de téléphonie mobile qui osent mettre la mention « internet illimité » dans leurs contrats alors qu’il n’en n’est rien. Premièrement, toutes les offres pour particuliers avec un tarif décent utilisent un système de quota de donnée avec le plus souvent deux issues possible une fois la limite atteinte : réduction de débit ou coupure complète. Après la deuxième limitation est la discrimination de contenu et de protocole effectué par les opérateurs. Pour résumer, le terme « Internet » pour les opérateur signifie accès HTTP et rien d’autre. Ensuite je ne parlerais pas du filtrage en temps réel effectué sur votre trafic avec usage certain du DPI…<span id="more-155"></span></p>
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<p>Donc soit je suis abruti et j’ai une mauvaise définition du mot illimité, soit messieurs les opérateurs ont confondu illimité et limité. Même constat pour le mot « Internet » qui a du être confondu avec Réseau Opérateur Amélioré. Si un marqueteu ou quelconque responsable veut répondre à ma prose et défendre son offre R.O.A limité , je l’attends de clavier ferme.</p>
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<p>Petite Offre Opérateur :</p>
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<p>-Accès Internet Limité</p>
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<p>-500Mo de quota par mois</p>
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<p>-Protocoles Autorisés : HTTP, POP, IMAP, SMTP</p>
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<p>-Usages Interdits : Peer to peer, Newsgroup, VOIP (autorisé en option)</p>
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<p>-Filtrage plus ou moins violent des autres protocoles : SSH, …</p>
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<p>Je caricature peut-être un peu mais c’est ce que les opérateurs nous proposent pour un peu plus de 30€/mois, ça fais cher vous ne trouvez pas ? En sachant que chez moi je vais payer 35€ pour avoir du « vrai » illimité en fixe.</p>
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<p>Autre blague, il y a certains opérateurs qui veulent nous faire croire que leurs infrastructures ne vont pas supporter l’augmentation d’abonnés et de services, que leur réseau va saturer et que l’on va tous mourir. Alors la solution qu’ ils sont trouvée c’est de limiter la data de leurs abonnés au lieu de faire leur boulot d’opérateur et d’augmenter la taille de leur réseau. Mais d’un autre coté, ils nous mettent de la TV en illimité, c’est le monde à l’envers ?</p>
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<p>Exemple concret, je suis actuellement client Orange et je viens de passer sur Origami Style à 30€/mois. Je dispose d’un quota de 500Mo/mois mais celui-ci exclu ma consommation effectué avec Deezer soit presque 100Mo/jour. Et en plus ce type data n’est pas du multicast comme la tv mais du unicast donc c’est du trafic perso. Par contre l’option tv de mon forfait n’est pas illimité et passe dans mon quota mensuel, allez comprendre …</p>
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<p>Donc faudra que l’on m’explique la cohérence de tout ce merdier.</p>
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<p>Tout à fait d’accord avec toi.</p>
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<p>Cet article de rwwfr explique la situation avec Orange : <a href="http://fr.readwriteweb.com/2010/08/26/a-la-une/orange-donne-aperu-de-linternet-sans-neutralit-du-net/" rel="nofollow">Orange donne un aperçu de l’internet sans neutralité du net</a>.</p>
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<p>L’Internet mobile n’est pas Internet, car on n’a pas d’IP publique (on a qu’une IPv4 sur le réseau privé de l’opérateur). Au passage, je ne sais pas quand ils ont prévu de passer en IPv6…</p>
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<p>Orange est vraiment le FAI à fuir : ils sont ouvertement contre la neutralité du net, et ne se privent pas de bloquer des ports y compris sur leur « Internet » fixe (le port 25 par exemple).</p>
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<p>Côté mobile, Bouygues est également à fuir (ils bloquent également le port 25, il faut configurer le client mail pour passer par le port 587).</p>
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<p>Chez SFR, au moins ils ne bloquent pas de ports (le SSH passe sur n’importe quel port). Je ne sais pas par contre s’ils priorisent (le réseau mobile est tellement lent que c’est difficile de s’en rendre compte). Mais ça reste du non-Internet (pas d’IP publique, usages interdits par contrat, etc.).</p>
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<p>Pour le 25 j’ai pas testé, tous mes transferts de mail se font en SSL sur les ports par default.</p>
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